IIRC, Bill Gates was once denied membership at some country club or another. Historically, wealth was almost never able to buy status, just one more way we’re headed back to feudalism.
mm says:
It used to be that the powerful knew that Fox News was for the rubes.
Now they actually believe the constant whining about their victimhood.
mago says:
Got no tears for the parvenus most of whom built their fortunes on the backs of others. Social snubs are minor consequences of foul karma.
Rugosa says:
A few years back, conservatives successfully made "liberal" a smear word for anyone they don't like. It seems they're doing the same thing with "elites." It doesn't really have any meaning beyond that.
Matt says:
And until rich Trump-affiliated lobbyists hear others heaping them with the praise they need and think they deserve, they will never be happy.
Nevermind praise, walking past one of these folks and only spitting on them should be considered a kindness.
Emerson Dameron says:
This sort of thing makes it harder to take their rhetoric about snowflakes, safe spaces, and “facts don’t care about your feelings” at face value.
They need to specify which Comedians are protected by The Free Speech Amendment.
nominalize says:
You should never take conservative rhetoric at face value, because it isn't meant to be taken that way. It's only meant to guilt-trip you into shutting up about being right, so they don't have to face the guilt stemming from their own wrongness. And nothing else.
Katydid says:
@Emerson:
Conservatives everywhere: "F*** your feelings!"
Someone says something that hurts their feelings.
Conservatives everywhere: "WAAAAH! OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!"
Pretzelogic in Philly, PA says:
"I don't care toooo much for money; money can't buy me love…"
Well, when somebody calls an urban, underemployed university graduate waiting tables to make ends meet 'elite' and a rural, wealthy company owner and multi-millionaire 'working class', then one way of analysing that is as a historical process of "decoupling of status, wealth, and class". Another is as some people simply not understanding what words mean.
Katydid says:
@Alex: the word "elite" has lost all meaning to them. Just like "liberal", it now means "something conservatives despise".
“It’s why America hates the out of touch leftist media elite,” Ms. Schlapp tweeted from a limousine en route to an exclusive after-party organized by NBC/MSNBC.
Irony is not only dead, it was beaten to a bloody pulp like Billy Batts in Goodfellas, wrapped in a tarp and buried in a shallow grave down by the reservoir.
geoff says:
"POINTY HEADED LIBERALS!!"
Yeah, Jesus, if you're AT the WHCD you are pretty much BY DEFINITION an elite, unless you're serving the baked chicken.
geoff says:
"Their lobbying income alone has surged in the year since Mr. Trump took office, to more than $1 million in 2017 from $600,000 in 2015. Koch Industries — Mr. Schlapp is a former chief Washington lobbyist for the corporation — was Cove’s first client."
Sorry you didn't get into Harvard, bro, but you're still rich as hell, so quit whining.
Dave Dell says:
Jaime Brockett:
"Turned on the radio the other day to hear what Spiro Agnew had to say. It had a good beat, Easy to dance to. I gave it a 72. Same as his IQ."
Mike Furlan says:
The Schlapps see how Kim Jung-Un is treated and wonder why they don't get that treatment.
The "Make America Great Again" idea is to go back the the time of the great slave plantations of old. The master could laugh at the slaves, but a slave who was not sufficiently deferential would be beaten.
Rosies Dad says:
Matt Schlappe always seems to me to be way too stupid to be the brains behind anything. So either he hides his genius during media appearances or (as is more likely), the bar on the Republican side just isn't that high.
He is also a whiny little bitch as was evidenced by his appearance on CNN yesterday morning. The absolute definition of a snowflake.
PrairieBear says:
Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them.
That is from the Philip E. Agre essay "What is Conservatism and What Is Wrong With It?" They can't buy the love, at least not from everybody, and it makes them even crazier. They will only keep doubling down on the psyop techniques and developing ever more of them. That whole essay is a gem, longish but quite accessible and I still think it explains conservatism better than just about anything else I've read.
"The Schlapps see how Kim Jung-Un is treated and wonder why they don't get that treatment."
Odd, that. They seem never to reflect on the way that a lot of the KJ's of the world are treated at the end.
Whether rich or poor, regardless their politics–all heads make the same thump when they miss the basket and bounce off the blood soaked platform of the executioner's office.
Dice says:
So … how do you buy the love of people from whom you are nakedly and constantly thieving? How brain-dead-arrogant.
You can have all the money in the world, but you still have to earn status. Just being rich is shit unless you contribute to the commons in leiu of destroying it to get richer.
They pine for the time when they could hire half of the population to kill the other half. Of course that never happened here; if it had, they would have found out how hard it is to stop that machine once it's running.
terraformer says:
Something about "…first against the wall when the revolution came."
Native Lemurian says:
2001 is now as close in time to 1984 as it is to the present day…
Safety Man! says:
IIRC, Bill Gates was once denied membership at some country club or another. Historically, wealth was almost never able to buy status, just one more way we’re headed back to feudalism.
mm says:
It used to be that the powerful knew that Fox News was for the rubes.
Now they actually believe the constant whining about their victimhood.
mago says:
Got no tears for the parvenus most of whom built their fortunes on the backs of others. Social snubs are minor consequences of foul karma.
Rugosa says:
A few years back, conservatives successfully made "liberal" a smear word for anyone they don't like. It seems they're doing the same thing with "elites." It doesn't really have any meaning beyond that.
Matt says:
Nevermind praise, walking past one of these folks and only spitting on them should be considered a kindness.
Emerson Dameron says:
This sort of thing makes it harder to take their rhetoric about snowflakes, safe spaces, and “facts don’t care about your feelings” at face value.
They need to specify which Comedians are protected by The Free Speech Amendment.
nominalize says:
You should never take conservative rhetoric at face value, because it isn't meant to be taken that way. It's only meant to guilt-trip you into shutting up about being right, so they don't have to face the guilt stemming from their own wrongness. And nothing else.
Katydid says:
@Emerson:
Conservatives everywhere: "F*** your feelings!"
Someone says something that hurts their feelings.
Conservatives everywhere: "WAAAAH! OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!"
Pretzelogic in Philly, PA says:
"I don't care toooo much for money; money can't buy me love…"
Major Kong says:
I wouldn't cross the street to piss on them if they were on fire.
Bitter Scribe says:
Spiro Agnew. What a corrupt, useless piece of shit. It was God's blessing to the Republic that he was caught and booted out of office before Nixon.
Let's call the claims of "media bias," from before Agnew to Trump, what it is: Whining.
Irritable Mark says:
His wife's name is "Mercedes." Tee hee.
Alex SL says:
Well, when somebody calls an urban, underemployed university graduate waiting tables to make ends meet 'elite' and a rural, wealthy company owner and multi-millionaire 'working class', then one way of analysing that is as a historical process of "decoupling of status, wealth, and class". Another is as some people simply not understanding what words mean.
Katydid says:
@Alex: the word "elite" has lost all meaning to them. Just like "liberal", it now means "something conservatives despise".
Major Kong says:
It gets better:
“It’s why America hates the out of touch leftist media elite,” Ms. Schlapp tweeted from a limousine en route to an exclusive after-party organized by NBC/MSNBC.
Irony is not only dead, it was beaten to a bloody pulp like Billy Batts in Goodfellas, wrapped in a tarp and buried in a shallow grave down by the reservoir.
geoff says:
"POINTY HEADED LIBERALS!!"
Yeah, Jesus, if you're AT the WHCD you are pretty much BY DEFINITION an elite, unless you're serving the baked chicken.
geoff says:
"Their lobbying income alone has surged in the year since Mr. Trump took office, to more than $1 million in 2017 from $600,000 in 2015. Koch Industries — Mr. Schlapp is a former chief Washington lobbyist for the corporation — was Cove’s first client."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/us/politics/schlapp-trump.html
Sorry you didn't get into Harvard, bro, but you're still rich as hell, so quit whining.
Dave Dell says:
Jaime Brockett:
"Turned on the radio the other day to hear what Spiro Agnew had to say. It had a good beat, Easy to dance to. I gave it a 72. Same as his IQ."
Mike Furlan says:
The Schlapps see how Kim Jung-Un is treated and wonder why they don't get that treatment.
The "Make America Great Again" idea is to go back the the time of the great slave plantations of old. The master could laugh at the slaves, but a slave who was not sufficiently deferential would be beaten.
Rosies Dad says:
Matt Schlappe always seems to me to be way too stupid to be the brains behind anything. So either he hides his genius during media appearances or (as is more likely), the bar on the Republican side just isn't that high.
He is also a whiny little bitch as was evidenced by his appearance on CNN yesterday morning. The absolute definition of a snowflake.
PrairieBear says:
Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them.
That is from the Philip E. Agre essay "What is Conservatism and What Is Wrong With It?" They can't buy the love, at least not from everybody, and it makes them even crazier. They will only keep doubling down on the psyop techniques and developing ever more of them. That whole essay is a gem, longish but quite accessible and I still think it explains conservatism better than just about anything else I've read.
democommie says:
"The Schlapps see how Kim Jung-Un is treated and wonder why they don't get that treatment."
Odd, that. They seem never to reflect on the way that a lot of the KJ's of the world are treated at the end.
Whether rich or poor, regardless their politics–all heads make the same thump when they miss the basket and bounce off the blood soaked platform of the executioner's office.
Dice says:
So … how do you buy the love of people from whom you are nakedly and constantly thieving? How brain-dead-arrogant.
You can have all the money in the world, but you still have to earn status. Just being rich is shit unless you contribute to the commons in leiu of destroying it to get richer.
democommie says:
@ Dice:
They pine for the time when they could hire half of the population to kill the other half. Of course that never happened here; if it had, they would have found out how hard it is to stop that machine once it's running.
terraformer says:
Something about "…first against the wall when the revolution came."
democommie says:
Comrade Commissar, person we are shooting is owning bad attitude of glorious party?
Comrade Shooting Detail Guy, person we are shooting is owning nice car.